From CreationWiki, the encyclopedia of creation science
The Global Flood or Biblical Flood of Noah (17 Bul 1656 AM23 October 2348 BC
17 Cheshvan 1413 He
17 Bul 1656 AM) is an event described in the Biblical book of Genesis, wherein the entire world was covered with water as divine punishment, and only a small number of humans and animals survived.
|“||The word for “flood” (mabbul), used here for the first time, applies only to the Noahic Flood; other floods are denoted by various other words in the original. This was the “mabbul,” unique in all history...Similarly, when the Genesis Flood is referred to in the New Testament, the Greek term kataklusmos is uniquely employed (Matthew 24:39 ; Luke 17:27 ; 2 Peter 2:5 ; 2 Peter 3:6 ) instead of the usual Greek word for “flood.” This Flood was not to be comparable to other later local floods; it was to be absolutely unique in all history.||”|
The account in Genesis is the best known and the most detailed, but the event recorded in ancient histories in various forms across cultures worldwide. It is described in the Islamic Qur'an, the Book of Jubilees, and the Book of Enoch. Direct references occur in the Critias and Timaeus of Plato, and the ancient Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh.
- Main Article: Flood models
According to the Biblical account, the flood of Noah was caused by a forty day rain that was accompanied by an upsurgence of subterranean waters. It is largely presumed that the latter was the principal supply of flood waters that covered the earth, and persisted for some time after the rain subsided. The Bible is not clear on when the "springs of the deep" were closed and some have interpreted Genesis 7:24 to mean that 150 days were involved - wherein it states: The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.. The flood, which began in the 600th year of Noah's life on the 17th day of the second month (Genesis 7:11 ) - to the day when the ark came to rest in the mountains of Ararat on the 17th day of the seventh month (Genesis 8:3-4 ). Noah was unable to leave the Ark for quite some time after this, however, because the tops of the mountains were not seen until three months later (Genesis 8:5 ). Noah was not given permission to leave the ark until the 27th day of the second month of his six-hundred-first year, placing them in the Ark for over one year(Genesis 8:14 ).
In this timeframe, we can derive that a month was thirty days long, with twelve months for a 360-day year. Even today, the value of 360 is used to measure a circle. Like a seven-day week, we may presume that this is a holdover from a pre-Flood measurement standard (one degree being one day) because no other known astronomical or geographical standard would provide such a baseline.
Several theories have been put forth to explain the source and eventual recession of these waters. While early models held to the existence of a vapor canopy as supplying the flood waters, the majority of creation geologists now support the waters from beneath the Earth's crust as responsible.
The exact depth of this water within the Earth's crust varies with different models. The Hydroplate theory places the water below a 10 mile thick crust, the remnants of which are now the continental crust. The Hydroplate theory is the first flood model to deal with the springs of the great deep. Modeling the springs of the deep is an important aspect of any Flood model and one where hydroplate theory excels. It is an important aspect of flood geology but one that still requires much work.
Subterranean water reservoirs have been recently discovered revealing oceanic-level water quantities below the Earth's crust. Others estimate that the total water underground may exceed thirty times the amount of water in above-ground oceans.
Destruction of the Wicked
- Main Article: Noah
According to the book of Genesis 6:9 ,"Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked with God". However, Noah lived at a time when men became more and more corrupt, and God determined to rid the Earth of its wicked population. Because of Noah's righteousness, God entered into a covenant with him, with a promise of deliverance from the impending Deluge. He was accordingly commanded to build an ark to save himself and his family.
It is seen as significant by most that the Bible mentions a human race known as the Nephilim immediately prior to God's proclamation to destroy the Earth by flood. Their presence may have been responsible for or contributed to the corruption of humankind.
"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth." - Genesis 6:4-7
The primary purpose of the Flood was not to simply destroy or punish the wicked, because after the Flood we read in the Bible Genesis 8:21 that the "imagination of man is evil from his youth."
The Flood was a very physical solution to a physical problem that was worldwide in scope. Wickedness, violence and evil were the natural results or symptoms of the physical complications. Sin and wickedness are pervasive in the heart of man to this day, even for believers. In this time frame, however, the physical world had taken on a form of corruption that required a physical rather than spiritual solution.
- Man's physical longevity preserved evil for longer periods of time
- The Nephilim, physical progeny of God's sworn enemies, would be expected to commit genocide against humans to defy God's word and his promises
- corruption of the flesh, another physical problem, was that man and beast had irreversibly deviated from their original purpose and design in a manner that utterly grieved God. It is reasonable to assume this corruption was exhibited behaviorally but was also genetic in nature
- We may also presume that this corruption-of-flesh affected clean animals which, if annihilated, would inhibit man from having fellowship with God through sacrifice.
- Corruption of the flesh explains why animals had to be annihilated along with mankind, because animals do not sin or have moral issues.
Reduction of Life Expectancy
- Main Article: Human longevity
Ancient historical records (including Genesis) state that prior to the flood of Noah, humans lived to approximately 10 times our current life expectancy. Methuselah is known for living longer than any other human in history, dying at the age of 969. This longevity is believed to be so extraordinarily long in part because environmental conditions were optimal before the Earth was destroyed. However, immediately after the flood, the lifespans recorded in the Biblical genealogy dropped quickly. Creationists have proposed a number of explanations for this, and it can not be overlooked as significant that immediately prior to proclaiming the coming of the global flood, God states that "Man's days shall be 120 years;"(Genesis 6:3 ). This statement may well indicate that one of the purposes of the flood was to reduce the lifespan of humans.. In Genetic Entropy, John Sanford notes that anyone could place the decreasing lifespans from Adam to King David and put them on a curve, and they would represent an exponential decay that is off-tolerance by less than 0.94. Either the Biblical patriarchs were simply recording what they saw, or had access to advanced mathematical models in order to display the curve this way. An exponential decay curve is significant in that, if initiated by God Genesis 6:3 is mathematically consistent with the rest of his Creation.
The word "pitch" used to cover the Ark, Genesis 6:14 is the same word for "atonement" (Strong's H3722) and foreshadows the blood atonement of Christ, which protects the believer from judgment John 3:36 , just as the pitch protected the Ark from the waters of judgment I Peter 3:20 .
God's holiness is "active" in that sin compels him to respond. His loving mercy likewise compels him to provide. While the Flood represents the fact that God possesses the will and capacity to execute judgment on creation, it is also representative of God's provision of salvation of the righteous. Abraham persistently inquired of God as to his tolerance of wickedness for the sake of the righteous remnant Genesis 18:32 where Abraham learned that God would withhold judgment for the sake of 10 righteous (Abraham feared inquiring further). The remaining righteous before the Flood (8 people) did not meet this threshold.
Foreshadowing of the "Rapture"
In the discourse on the Mount of Olives Matthew 24 , Jesus Christ offers insight to a period commonly referred to by believers as the "last days". Interleaved in these explanations are foreshadows of the event that believers call "the Rapture", when Jesus returns in the clouds to receive all believers living and dead. Jesus references Lot and Noah as examples of "evacuation before judgment".
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour our Lord doth come.
And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
The above are both a picture of "evacuation before judgment", in describing the Rapture event, that all believers will be caught up (1 Thess 4:17) to be with the Lord in the air as a groom receives a bridge into the bridal chamber (Matt 25:1) for the wedding supper of the Lamb Revelation 19:7-9 . Christ's rich wedding imagery and constant anchoring of the believer to a marriage covenant is a promise of the groom's protection and provision for the bride.
God's Preservation of a Promise to Mankind
Jesus is the "Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" Revelation 13:8 . All of God's actions will ultimately preserve this truth.
God is holy and keeps his promises Acts 13:23 II Peter 3:9 Revelation 19:11 and this characteristic utterly separates Him from all others. His words (his promises) will never pass away Isaiah 40:8 Matthew 24:35
God had already promised Adam and Eve Genesis 3:15 that Eve's seed would be used to redeem the creation. This is an explicit promise of a human Redeemer, a foreshadowing of Jesus Christ. Adam, Eve and many more died with this promise in their hearts.
Human souls are eternal Genesis 2:7 . Many believers, including Adam and Eve, had already died prior to the corruption of the flesh and the rise of violence that so grieved God. Their souls did not go to heaven, but awaited Christ's redemption elsewhere John 3:13 Luke 16:22 I Peter 3:19 Ephesians 4:8-10 Acts 2:27-31 . Without Christ's redemption, they would remain forever separated from God's fellowship.
This promise required God to preserve mankind's bloodline in-general to bring about a human Redeemer. God later acts through the Abrahamic promise Genesis 18:18 Genesis 22:18 and the Davidic promise II Samuel 7:16 to preserve specific bloodlines leading to the promised Messiah.
As God interacts with mankind using everlasting priorities, The Flood and all of the acts of God, including the acts he required of men, kings and armies, can be viewed from a perspective of eternal purpose rather than temporal utility alone.
The pre-Flood violence, if unabated, risked at worst annihilation of all mankind, at best subject to the cruelty of demon progeny in the Nephilim. However, if annihilated, this would nullify the promises that God had already made to mankind to send a human Redeemer (no humans remained through which the Redeemer could come). For those who would have died prior to this annihilation, including Adam and Eve, the salvation through human Redeemer would likewise be lost. Their souls would remain in hell unredeemed and God's promise broken.
The Ark is a promise-kept to all future believers, a picture of salvation for the future of mankind, but also the preservation of a promise to those believers who had already died.
This viewpoint largely dispels the notion that God was acting capriciously or as a "cosmic kill-joy" to wipe out humans for punishment alone.
God's Preservation of Fellowship with Man
God slew animals and covered Adam and Eve with their skins Genesis 3:21 , presumably showing them how to perform ritual sacrifice in the process, because their progeny (Cain and Abel) executed formal ritual sacrifice Genesis 4 as did Noah after the Flood Genesis 8:20
Preparations for later sacrifice were made in the stocking of the Ark Genesis 7:2 , with seven pairs of clean animals and one pair of unclean animals.
After the Flood, Genesis 8:20 the clean animals were necessary for sacrifice, allowing mankind to maintain temporary fellowship with God and to honor the foreshadowing of the coming Redeemer Hebrews 10:2-4
As Noah did not have to fetch the animals, (they were sent Genesis 6:20 ) but the overstocking of clean animals underscored God's priority of preserving ongoing fellowship with man in the upcoming generations, through blood sacrifice.
- Main Article: Noah's ark
The Biblical account of the flood contains a remarkable degree of detail. Precise dimensions are given for the ark and each of its decks. It also provides the exact year, month, and day of the flood. In Genesis 7:11 we read that the flood occurred in the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month. According to the Biblical genealogy, this was 1656 years after the creation.
The Bible account also states exactly how long the flood lasted:
"The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the water had gone down, and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month18 April 2347 BC
16 Iyar 1413 He
17 Abib 1656 AM the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat." - Genesis 8:3-4
"The waters continued to recede until the tenth month, and on the first day of the tenth month30 June 2347 BCFinally,
1 Av 1413 He
1 Tammuz 1656 AM the tops of the mountains became visible." - Genesis 8:5
"By the twenty-seventh day of the second month21 November 2347 BC
27 Kislev 1414 He
27 Bul 1657 AM the earth was completely dry." - Genesis 8:14
This degree of detail — day, month, and year — is common in first-hand historical accounts, but is rare in myths and fiction.
"So the LORD said, 'I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth — men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air — for I am grieved that I have made them.'" - Genesis 6:7
According to the Biblical chronology the global flood occurred approximately 4500 years ago. If this event occurred as described in the Bible, the fossil record left behind could never be correctly interpreted by a naturalist. Although the earth is completely covered in monumental amounts of flood sediment, a naturalist would have to explain the survival of animals using natural processes, such as many local floods, and gradual deposition over millions of years. However, the Bible specifically says God caused the earth to be flooded until the waters exceeded the highest mountain by 15 cubits (22.5 feet, or 7 meters) (Genesis 7:20 ). The waters covered the mountains to the extent that no human was capable of surviving without supernatural intervention. The evidence of this event covers the world, but cannot be correctly interpreted by scientists who hold to an atheistic philosophy and naturalistic presuppositions.
"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month — on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened." - Genesis 7:11
Explicit biblical references to Noah
- Genesis 5:28-32 — Genealogy
- Genesis 6-10 — The full narrative of the Flood itself
- Isaiah 54:9
- Matthew 24:37-39 — Testified to by Jesus
- Luke 17:26-27
- Hebrews 11:7
- 1Peter 3:20
- 2Peter 2:4-11 (vs 5)
Near explicit references to Noah
- 2Peter 3:3-9 (vss 5-6) — (the word translated "flooded" here is the root of our word cataclysm)
Possible implicit references to the flood
- Main Article: Flood legends
Native global flood stories are documented as history or legend in almost every region on Earth. In The Antiquities of the Jews, first-century historian Josephus cites myriad ancient histories recording the flood, including those by Berosus the Chaldean, Hieronymus the Egyptian, Mnaseas, and Nicolaus of Damascus. (Antiquities I:3:93-95.) In addition to these written accounts, scores of oral traditions about the flood exist throughout the world even today, including Native American and Aboriginal societies. Old world missionaries reported their amazement at finding remote tribes already possessing legends with tremendous similarities to the Bible's accounts of the worldwide flood. H.S. Bellamy in Moons, Myths and Men estimates that altogether there are over 500 Flood legends worldwide. Ancient civilizations such as (China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia) all have their own versions of a giant flood.
These flood tales are frequently linked by common elements that parallel the Biblical account including the warning of the coming flood, the construction of a boat in advance, the storage of animals, the inclusion of family, and the release of birds to determine if the water level had subsided. The overwhelming consistency among flood legends found in distant parts of the globe indicates they were derived from the same origin (the Bible's record), but oral transcription has changed the details through time.
The following elements are common to nearly all the accounts:
- A flood was sent by the divine to punish mankind.
- A family of people and a number of animals were spared from the flood in a boat.
- All life on earth outside the boat or not native to the water was destroyed.
- The residents of the boat repopulated the whole earth.
There are two explanations for the widespread flood story. The global flood was a popular and fictional myth created by early man, passed from culture to culture and gradually exaggerated, or global flood was a historical event, of which the events were recorded and retained to varying degrees of accuracy in different cultures over the years.
Those who hold to the second approach challenge those who hold to the former in the following ways:
- If this was a fictional myth, why did all the cultures take it as historical fact?
- If this was a fictional myth, why was it found among Native American people who (according to the evolutionary view) had no contact with people of the Middle East for tens of thousands of years?
- If this was a fictional myth, why is there such a spectacular degree of detail, particularly in the Genesis account, which provides the exact day, month, and year for the events of the flood?
- Why is the geologic record so much more consistent with catastrophism than with uniformitarianism?
- Why does the physical evidence such as the massive fossil graveyards, huge sedimentary deposits, vast coal and oil fields and chalk deposits indicate a massive flood so strongly?
Many of those who most vigorously object to the second approach (historic event) do so for philosophical reasons. Because the most complete account of the Flood is found in Genesis, any admission of a major flood in human times would present a threat to Naturalism philosophy. They object to the idea that a God of judgment would reveal the future to a human and then destroy almost all land-living animals. Even evolutionists who agree with catastrophism often seek other explanations. This philosophical objection results in a great number of apparently scientific arguments against a global flood. However, most of these arguments are unfounded and do not hold up to scientific scrutiny.
Pre-flood and Post-flood differences
Most historical information regarding the pre-flood world and the post-flood world is based largely on speculation. However, one conclusion that is usually agreed upon is that the pre-flood world and post-flood world were dramatically different.
The following table is a summary of the known and assumed facts based on scientific research and biblical history.
|Lifespan||Long lifespan.||Short lifespan.||Prophecy before the flood: (Genesis 6:3 )|
|Nutrient Availability||Full nutritional diet available in plants and/or other resources.(Genesis 1:9 )||Many creatures, including Man, are now allowed to eat meat because there is a loss of nutrient resources.(Assumption based on Genesis 9:2-4 )||It is clear that before the flood, plant life was ample to sustain man, but after the flood, God also made animals available for man as a food source.|
Questions and Answers
Where did the water come from?
- Main Article: Springs of the great deep
Springs of the Great Deep are described in the Bible as a source of the devastating global flood. While some have contended that the main source of the waters was the 40 days of rain (See: canopy theory), today most creation scientists agree that it was principally caused by waters of a subterranean origin. Recent discoveries have revealed that the inner earth may hold more water than the seas. Analysis of the earth's likely composition in 2002 revealed "there may be more H2O deep underground than in all oceans, lakes, and rivers combined." In 2007, scientists discovered for the first time that a vast 'ocean' exists beneath Asia that is at least the volume of the Arctic Ocean. According to National Geographic, the water appears locked in moisture-containing rocks discovered through scanning seismic waves, but further discoveries could follow.
Where did the water go?
- Main Article: Flood model
Some who dismiss the idea of a global flood do so because they say the Flood would have had to rise as high as Mount Everest, because Genesis 7:19 says the waters covered "all the high hills." Mount Everest peaks at 29,035 feet (8850 metres), and they say there is not enough water on earth to cover such a height.
This is actually a straw man argument. Creationists do not claim that the Flood covered mountain ranges such as the Himalayas, Rockies, Andes or even Mount Ararat. Rather these mountain ranges were formed by the rapid plate movement of the continents at the peak of the Flood's activity. Some have claimed that such a notion would create enough joules of energy to boil the seas, but the Flood initiated the Ice Age so there is clearly a missing piece of their claim. The "mountains" mentioned in Genesis are the "high hills" and nothing more. Mountain ranges were formed catastrophically, as the Bible notes:
"You covered it with the deep as with a garment; the waters stood above the mountains. But at your rebuke the waters fled, at the sound of your thunder they took to flight; they flowed over the mountains, they went down into the valleys, to the place you assigned for them. You set a boundary they cannot cross; never again will they cover the earth." - Psalm 104:6-9
This passage tells us that mountains rose and valleys sank during the Flood. Mount Everest rose up during the Flood, so the Flood did not need to reach the height that Mount Everest is today.
There is enough water on earth for a global flood. If the earth was smoothed out, the water in the oceans would cover it to a depth of about 8,813 feet (2.6 kilometres). This does not include the water in rivers, lakes, glaciers, and other sources. They would add about another 2–3 thousand feet (600-900 metres). In reality, the Flood would only need to be a little over 7,000 feet (2.1 kilometres) deep.
Anecdotally, if the oceans today were only 300 feet lower, every continent would be connected with land bridges. That much of the floodwater was trapped on land and in glaciers is evidenced in the massive underwater canyons located at the egress point of major rivers on every major continent. The Hudson river has just such a canyon, eclipsing the size of the Grand Canyon and would have required enormous power to carve (more power than what is delivered today by the river's egress to the ocean).
So the real question is whether it is possible for Mount Everest to have risen to its current height fast enough to fit a time-scale consistent with the Flood. The earthquake that caused the Indonesian tsunami of December 26, 2004 caused an uplift of at least 20 feet (six metres) in a few minutes, which is a speed of about 240 feet per hour (84 metres per hour). At that rate Mount Everest could have reached its current height in about five days. Forces observed in earthquakes are sufficient, if extended long enough, to quickly raise the highest mountain to its current height in just a few days. Marine fossils are discovered on the highest peaks. The result is that, based on the amount of water on earth, and observed tectonic forces, there was the potential to quickly raise mountains. So the global Flood of the Bible is theoretically possible. You can see a seafloor study that traces culprits behind Indian Ocean tsunami for further explanation.
Was the flood regional?
- Main Article: Local flood
Although the Genesis account of the flood of Noah has traditionally been interpreted as meaning a global event, some believe it was merely a regional catastrophe. The local flood view is held by old-earth creationists known as Day-age or Progressive creationists. Arguments in favor of this position use the original Hebrew wording, which they claim is ambiguous about whether the flood was universal. This is not true, since a unique and specific Hebrew word "mabbul" is used to for the Genesis flood, and a unique and specific Greek word "kataklusmos" (e.g. cataclysm) is used in the New Testament. Other words for "flood" are used for local floods. Local-flood advocates also cite many ancient historians who have claimed that Noah's Flood was regional. In addition, some Islamic and Greek historians recorded the flood as regional. These however, are so closely descriptive of the original Flood that they are considered derived stories. The Flood is offered in Genesis as an eyewitness account.
Practically speaking, a regional flood makes nonsense of the story. The size of the ark means that its building is likely to have taken several years. That being so, it would always be simpler to migrate away from the region rather than build an ark. In addition, there would be no need to preserve animals through it, since they too could have walked to safety. No conceivable regional flood, in the earth's current configuration, could cover so wide an area as to require an ark rather than feet in order to escape it.
More importantly, God promised (with a rainbow) that he would never flood the Earth with water again. There have been many local floods since that time. Even one local flood means that God broke his promise.
Furthermore, John D. Morris, at the Institute for Creation Research, points out that the Hebrew and Greek words used in the Bible for the Global Flood were substantially different from any words used to describe either a local flood or a metaphor for a military invasion.
Could a just God destroy innocent life?
This objection refers to the many living things that were destroyed in the Flood. Why destroy the innocent animals? This is answered with an examination of the context. Mortal life, including plants and animals, since the Fall of Adam and Eve, is subject to death. Withholding a global flood would not have saved any animal or plant from death. The justice of God provided a way for many species to be saved on the Ark. God waited as long as his justice would allow, before causing a Flood that would shorten the life spans of individual creatures but would not destroy species: Life would return and the earth would be repopulated.
In the opening verses of Genesis 6, God openly observes that all humans are wicked. God selects Noah for His own purposes and reasons, but does not claim that Noah is innocent. Abraham queried God as to whether he would preserve Sodom if only a few righteous remained, and persistently reduced the number down to ten(10). As far as we know, this is God's threshold for withholding judgment for the sake of a righteous remnant. The Flood, however, preserved only eight(8) which like Sodom, did not meet this threshold. Later in Scripture, Jesus Christ compares his Second Coming to the Flood and to Sodom, linking the two events as analogous to "evacuation before judgment."
How could you get 7 billion people from just 8 survivors of the Flood?People who make this objection often fail to realize how fast the exponential growth of a population can occur. As shown below, if the flood occurred 4300 years ago, then we would only need an annual growth rate of .49% to get from the 6 children and in-laws of Noah to the 7 billion people of today. Here is the proof:
Population growth is modeled by the equation P = P0(1 + r)t, where P is the current population, P0 is the beginning population, r is the growth rate (as a decimal), and t is the amount of time over which the population has been growing. Now, let us find the growth rate required to get from 6 people 4300 years ago to 7 billion people today by solving for r.
7000000000 = 6(1 + r)4300
Recall that this is the growth rate required if the Flood had occurred 4300 years ago, which is a late date for the Flood. However, if the Flood occurred 4500 years earlier, as believed by many Creation Scientists, then the required growth rate drops down to .47%.
Could plants survive the pressure and salinity?
Doubters of the flood ask how plants could survive the flood when the salinity and pressure, and lack of sunlight, would most likely kill most plants. Their argument assumes that the salinity and pressure would in fact be high. As shown above, the water level wasn't nearly as high as the present altitude of mount Everest and not as high as they'd consider, so the pressure would not be high enough to flatten trees and such as they'd think.
They further assume that the water flooding the earth, had to be salt water. If it wasn't, then it would more than likely "water" the plants underneath rather than poison them. And because the water altitude wasn't nearly as high as they anticipated, sunlight filtration becomes less of a problem. Indeed, thousands of sea creatures and plants today can live in seawater at great depths with minimal sunlight, and they are submerged deeper than those flooded plants would have been. Furthermore, even if the water flooding the earth was highly saline, seeds could have easily survived—as Darwin himself proved.
When the dove returned an olive branch Genesis 8:11 this strongly adds credibility to the account, considering that olive trees are one of the hardiest and resilient trees in the world, and would have rapidly grown to produce branches in a short period of time.
Could the Ark hold all the animals?
- Main Article: Microevolution
One of the most frequent questions asked, as evidenced by the abundance of Creationist responses, is whether the Ark could contain all the varieties of animals we see today.
Practically speaking, God personally gave Noah the dimensions of the Ark and also told Noah that the animals would come to him. In short, God knew which and how many animals he would send, and so designed an Ark suitable for it. The question remains as to the details of this preservation.
Probably the best point to be made is that made by Doctors Morris and Whitcomb in The Genesis Flood (1998), that the core created "kinds" mentioned in Genesis 1:5 are not the same thing as species.
|“||"The word species and the Biblical word 'kind' are often used interchangeably. This is incorrect since they are not synonymous. The Biblical word kind denotes an organism that reproduces others like itself. The species concept is much narrower than this; therefore many species can be included in a single Biblical 'kind.' The word kind is probably closer to the modern taxonomic unit of genus, and in some cases the larger taxonomic unit, family. The Canidae (canine) family includes about 14 genera of dog like animals. These include the coyote, dog, wolf, jackal, etc. The ark did not have to contain the hundreds of species of canines that make up this group. In reality, these were all represented by a few 'kind.' These 'kind' would then produce all the animals that make up the Canidae family. For example all of the hundreds of varieties of domestic pigeons that have all been produced originated from one species, the wild rock pigeon (Columbia livia)."||”|
This is the concept of Microevolution, which is Biblically compatible. According to Genesis 1, God told each core created animal to bring forth after their "kinds", or a scientist might call them, Family.
|“||And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good... And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. (Genesis 1:21 , Genesis 1:24-25||”|
The word "kind" is translated from the Hebrew word "miyn", defined by Strong's Hebrew Dictionary as "from an unused root meaning to portion out; a sort, i.e. species:--kind." We can see Natural Selection occur, we can see adaptation occur, but what remains highly speculatory is this belief in Macroevolution, that all species came from a common ancestor. Just because species adapt after their core species (genera) to the environment, changing to become the numerous varieties we see today, does not mean they all had a common ancestor.
There would, in other words, be fewer parent species required on the Ark, which would then adapt through Microevolution into the many varieties that we see today, according to the book of Genesis. What is more, we see that this rate of Microevolution is fast enough to allow such rapid adaptation within thousands of years, as it is being discovered far faster than commonly believed under the theory of Evolution, within decades, rather than over thousands or millions of years.
Could Noah repopulate the earth with the altered soil composition and available food?
To be more specific: could the remaining soil support enough agriculture to feed eight people and all the herbivores of the earth? The Flood was a violent event that essentially stripped away the old soil and remade the surface of the earth. But this new surface, and new soil, would be more than sufficiently fertile, for several reasons:
- One persistent complaint by Flood doubters, and therefore a generally acknowledged fact on all sides, is the apparent lack of human fossils. Certainly, most of the victims of the Flood did not fossilize. Therefore their bodies decomposed, and this decomposition would have supplied the new soil with nitrogen and other vital components.
- Irrigation would not be a problem, because the Flood had provided plenty of water, and as discussed above, that water need not have been saline.
Therefore, the surviving seeds would have been able to germinate and thus repopulate the world with all kinds of plants, including grains, fruits, and vegetables. If germination began almost immediately after the Flood, Noah and his family could live on the remaining supplies that they had not consumed aboard the Ark, and within weeks the first "voluntary crops" could have sprouted. Noah and his family would have consumed only a small fraction of these, and the rest would have gone to seed. Other animals would have helped indirectly by contributing to the nitrogen cycle through waste and death. Entire rain forests on other continents would have grown in only a few hundred years. The generations listed after Noah could have provided more than enough people to build the Tower of Babel.
Would inbreeding threaten extinction for humans and lower animals?
Many have asked, would inbreeding among humans after the flood not have caused the offspring of such unions to be retarded or deformed as we see today when brothers cohabitate sisters or close kin? The answer is no. An understanding of genetics helps to clarify the matter. Briefly, in Adam's gene pool was the potential of creating all traits found in man today. Those who left the ark had a genetic makeup that was purely ideal and full of variabilty, allowing the descendants of the flood survivors to have the many traits we see today-through the process of isolation. After the Flood, Noah's three sons went out into the world in different geographic directions and isolation occurred. As generation, after generation was born, the gene pool was eventually narrowed through the process of natural selection and isolation, which eventually allowed the process of speciation to develop at a much faster speed. Thus after each generation was born, gene pool narrowing coupled with isolation from other peoples, caused the available genes to lesson and this influenced modern man's characteristics. However, because of sin, man's genes were effected and this lead to the possibilities of deformities. These two factors today, namely a smaller gene pool, and the present of bad genes causes children of close relatives to be possibly deformed in some way.
Inbreeding is often regarded as far more deleterious than the actual facts suggest. While inbreeding causes several mutations and losses of genetic material, multiple examples from history show that this need not be lethal. For millennia, royalty married only other royalty. Therefore, of necessity, cousin married cousin and often brother married sister. While genetic diseases like hemophilia did occur more frequently than they do in the general population, even this increased frequency did not destroy those royal families. (The destruction of the Romanov dynasty in Russia is often cited as an example, but that destruction resulted, not from the suffering of Tsarevich Alexei, but rather from the tragic decision by his mother to trust a mystic with questionable political connections. The Royal House of Windsor in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland did not suffer such a tragic fate, though that family also saw an increase in hemophilia and in fact passed this increased incidence to the Romanovs, who were their cousins.)
More to the point, to say that an increased frequency of genetic disease would have wiped out entire populations is absurd. Millions of people today are still born with genetic diseases, because technically everyone's spouse is a cousin to some degree. Yet the human race endures. However, inbreeding could have caused a deterioration of the human species, which might help explain the shortening of the human lifespan.
The same applies to animals: while some deterioration would have occurred, no credible observation, or series of observations, suggests that inbreeding has ever caused the extinction of an entire species.
- ↑ Morris, Henry M., The Genesis Record. Grand Rapids MI: Baker Books, 1976. p.183-184.
- ↑ http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070227-ocean-asia.html
- ↑ (cf. Book of Ezekiel 14:14,20 )
- ↑ Genesis 6:7
- ↑ Genesis 6:18
- ↑ Genesis 6:14-16
- ↑ Genesis 5:31
- ↑ Morris, Henry M., The Genesis Record. Grand Rapids MI: Baker Books, 1976. p.170.
- ↑ Catastrophism vs. Uniformitarianism, All About Creation, 2002. Accessed March 9, 2008.
- ↑ Harder, Ben (2002, March 7). "Inner Earth May Hold More Water than the Seas." National Geographic.
- ↑ Than, Ker (2007, February 28). "Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth." LiveScience.
- ↑ Lovett, Richard A. (2007, February 7). "Huge Underground 'Ocean' Found Beneath Asia." National Geographic.
- ↑ Harder, Ben (2010, November 8). "Earth Contains a Vast Amount of Water, But Scientists Are Unsure of Its Origins." Washington Post.
Bryner, Jeanna (2007, October 1). "Huge Stores of Oxygen Found Deep Inside Earth." LiveScience.
Krulwich, Robert (2011, June 23). "How Much Water Is There On Earth? Magellan Would Be Shocked." NPR.
- ↑ Haverluck, Michael F. "The Global Flood as You've Never Seen It." CNN, November 30, 2007. Accessed March 9, 2008.
- ↑ http://www.icr.org/article/did-noahs-flood-cover-himalayan-mountains/
- ↑ Harder, Ben, and Petherick, Anna. "Seafloor Study Traces Culprits Behind Indian Ocean Tsunami." National Geographic News online, December 23, 2005. Accessed March 9, 2008.
- ↑ Morris, John D. "'Cataclysmed' with Water." Institute for Creation Research. Accessed March 9, 2008.
- ↑ How did land plants survive the Genesis Flood? by Christian Answers Network
- ↑ Slick, Matthew J. "Could Noah's Ark Hold All the Animals?" Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry.
- ↑ Taylor, Stanley E. & Taylor, Paul S. (2002). "Could Noah's Ark Really Hold All the Animals That Were Supposed to be Preserved From Flood?" Eden Communications.
- ↑ Sarfati, Jonathan D. (1997). "How Did All the Animals Fit On Noah's Ark?" Creation Ministries International. In Creation, 19(2), pp. 16–19.
- ↑ Mendez, Arnold C., Sr. "Was Noah's Ark Big Enough to Hold All the Animals?" BibleStudy.org.
- ↑ BibleTools. "Greek/Hebrew Definitions: Strong's #4327." Church of the Great God.
- ↑ Skelly, David K. "Rapid Evolution." Yale University. School of Forestry & Environmental Studies.
- Was the Flood global? by Answers in Genesis
- Online video: The Global Flood - Dr. Marc Surtees
- Noah's Flood—what about all that water? by Answers in Genesis
- Problems with a Global Flood? by TrueOrigin
- A comparative study of the flood accounts in the Gilgamesh Epic and Genesis by Answers in Genesis
- New Underwater Finds Raise Questions About Flood Myths National Geographic
- The Fossil Record by Amazing Discoveries
- Was the Flood of Noah a Real Event? A-Quest-for-Creation-Answers
- Regional flood
- There are flood myths from all over the world (Talk.Origins)
- Flood and kinetic energy