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Vestigial organs are just evidence of decay, not evolution (Talk.Origins)

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This article (Vestigial organs are just evidence of decay, not evolution (Talk.Origins)) is a response to a rebuttal of a creationist claim published by Talk.Origins Archive under the title Index to Creationist Claims.


Claim CB361:

Vestigial organs (if any really exist) are not evidence of evolution. They just show decay consistent with the second law of thermodynamics.

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CreationWiki response:

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1. Vestigial organs include more than atrophied organs.The bones of the middle ear, for example, are vestiges of jaw bones of ancestral tetrapods.

Atrophied organs are the only organs that could objectively be considered vestigial. If an organ such as the blind eyes of cave fish no longer functions but clearly were one time functioning organs then clearly a change has occurred. However, labeling a functioning organ vestigial because it resembles another functioning organ requires assuming Evolution; thus the label is an interpretation and not evidence.

This statement assumes evolution, since it would only be true if evolution were true. It is an Evolutionary interpretation and such labels are irrelevant against an opposing theory. Evolutionists seem to have a real problem with confusing their interpretation for the evidence they are interpreting.

This Talk Origins response is an example of circular reasoning.

2. Loss of organs is sometimes an advantage. For example, loss of legs is adaptive in whales. Thus, losses of organs often are evolution driven by natural selection.

Once again this entire statement assumes Evolution, since, if whales were created as whales, they have not lost legs because they never had them to lose.

Talk Origins is using circular reasoning here, since the argument is only valid if Evolution is true.

They are evidence of evolution when their vestigial forms show similarities to earlier nonvestigial forms

Talk Origins must be getting dizzy from arguing in so many circles. The labeling of functional organs as vestigial forms assumes Evolution, since if an organism were created, such organs cannot be vestigial forms of anything despite their similarity to those other forms.

3. The second law of thermodynamics allows for more than decay.

True, but its statistical form shows that decay is by far the most probable direction of a system and atrophied organs would be consistent with that.

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