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Ica stones show humans and dinosaurs coexisted (Talk.Origins)

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This article (Ica stones show humans and dinosaurs coexisted (Talk.Origins)) is a response to a rebuttal of a creationist claim published by Talk.Origins Archive under the title Index to Creationist Claims.


Claim CH710.1:

Ica stones, collected by Dr. Javier Cabrera Darquea near the village of Ica in Peru, show ancient drawings of humans hunting or otherwise interacting with living dinosaurs.

Source: Berlitz, Charles, 1984. Atlantis, the Eighth Continent. New York: G. P. Putnam's Sons, pp. 179-181. Triumph Prophetic Ministries, n.d., Dinosaurs and man?


CreationWiki response: (Talk.Origins quotes in blue)

1. The stones are almost certainly modern, created by local villagers to sell to gullible tourists. Two peasants from Callango, Basilio Uchuya and his wife, Irma Gutierrez de Aparcana, have admitted to carving the stones they sold to Cabrera, basing their designs on illustrations from comic books, school books, and magazines [Polidoro 2002].

Yes, some of the local people claim to have carved the ones that they are selling. They do so to stay out of jail for selling them, since the real ones are national treasures of Peru. Some fakes have turned up, but while they emulate the basic style, the fakes are not perfect duplicates. More important is the fact that the genuine stones have a bacterial "varnish" over them (including the pictures) that takes at least 200 years to form. This includes those depicting dinosaurs.

2. The stones cannot be dated without knowing their source, and their source has never been revealed.

Actually the source of the more than 15,000 stones is known. They are ceremonial burial stones from tombs near Ica, Peru that are dated from 500-1500 A.D. In 1525 a Spanish Priest, while near Ica, is reported to have inquired about these stones. Furthermore the bacterial "varnish" sets a minimum age of 200 years on the stones.

3. The Ica stones reputedly give evidence for a highly advanced, very ancient civilization, but no other trace of such a civilization exists. (The Nazca drawings are nearby, but they don't depict any dinosaurs or evidence for advanced technology.)

Some of the Ica stones have images like those of Nazca drawings. The lack of dinosaur images at Nazca only shows that they were not part of the theme of the lines.

Unless the lines that look like airplane runways really are airplane runways, there are no depictions of technology at all in the Nazca drawings. The fact that Nazca drawings can only be seen for what they are from the air does suggest that those who made them had some flight technology, even if they were just hot air balloons.

So there is evidence connecting the Ica stones to the Nazca drawings.

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