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Peppered moths remained the same species (Talk.Origins)

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This article (Peppered moths remained the same species (Talk.Origins)) is a response to a rebuttal of a creationist claim published by Talk.Origins Archive under the title Index to Creationist Claims.


Claim: CB910.2

Peppered moths are commonly claimed as evidence of evolution, but falsely so. The moths only changed color; they remain peppered moths.

Source: Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, 1985. Life--How Did It Get Here? Brooklyn, NY, 105-107.


CreationWiki response: (Talk.Origins quotes in blue)

1. Peppered moths were never claimed as evidence of a new species. They show evolutionary change as a result of selection. Creationists themselves admit such microevolution is a reality. Peppered moths show microevolution and one of its causes.

Notice what is actually being claimed:

Peppered moths are commonly claimed as evidence of evolution, but falsely so. The moths only changed color; they remain peppered moths.

The claim is accurate in that while the moths did undergo some variation they still remained peppered moths. Talk.Origins sets up a strawman argument by asserting that, "peppered moths were never claimed as evidence of a new species," and then easily knocks it down. But the quoted claim does not say that the peppered moths were evidence of a new species.

However, the peppered moth example has frequently been used as evidence of "evolution", without making any distinction between variation within a created kind, natural selection, and goo-to-you evolution. The example, to the extent that it is true, illustrates natural selection, a creationist concept, not goo-to-you evolution. But evolutionists consistently fail to point that out.

As Talk.Origins accurately states, creationists do not take issue with minor variations that occur within the various kinds of animals. However, as most anticreationists do, Talk.Origins skips over the the more important issue of providing evidence for universal common descent. This is what the argument is over and not whether or not peppered moths are evidence of a new species.

Further reading

The true story of Industrial melanism

Second thoughts about Peppered moths

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