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Men have fewer ribs than women (Talk.Origins)

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This article (Men have fewer ribs than women (Talk.Origins)) is a response to a rebuttal of a creationist claim published by Talk.Origins Archive under the title Index to Creationist Claims.


Claim CB381:

As related in Genesis 2, Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs. As a consequence, men have one fewer set of ribs than women do.

Source:

CreationWiki response:

(Talk.Origins quotes in blue)

1. Men and women have the same number of ribs.

CORRECT, men and women do have the same number of ribs. This claim is bogus; it is not a Creationist claim.

  1. Note: Talk Origins source is not a creationist source, and is based on a comment by one student who did not know what she was talking about.
  2. This claim is popular with dishonest skeptics of creation science, not with Creationists. Creationists have long pointed out the error of this so-called claim, and even warn against its use.


2. The Genesis account may be an explanatory myth for the absence of a different bone. Most male mammals have a baculum, a bone for stiffening the penis. Humans are one of the rare exceptions, relying on hydraulics instead. Genesis 2:21-23 could refer to its removal from Adam. A baculum, unlike a rib, is associated with reproduction. The closing of flesh mentioned in Genesis 2:21 could refer to the raphe, a seam on the penis and scrotum. Biblical Hebrew has no word for penis, so another term would have to be used. The Hebrew word for "rib" has other meanings such as the supporting columns in trees, or planks in doors; it could have referred to a structural support generally.

Talk Origins' statement is baseless speculation.

It is not necessary to assume that the removed bone remained missing. In fact, if a rib is removed, leaving the periosteum intact, that rib grows back. Not only does this make the rib an ideal bone for such a procedure as God performed in Genesis 2:21-23, but it means that even Adam would have gone through life without a defect.

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