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Dark moths never completely replaced light ones in Manchester (Talk.Origins)

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This article (Dark moths never completely replaced light ones in Manchester (Talk.Origins)) is a response to a rebuttal of a creationist claim published by Talk.Origins Archive under the title Index to Creationist Claims.


Claim CB601.2.1:

Melanic moths never completely replaced non-melanic ones in heavily polluted areas such as Manchester. This is inconsistent with the theory that visually selective predation was responsible for their increase in numbers.

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CreationWiki response:

It needs to be noted that the traditional peppered moth story is no way a threat to creation science. Not only do the peppered moths remain peppered moths but it does not even represent a change in the peppered moth gene pool but only a temporary shift in populations. The fact that Evolutionists even consider this evidence for evolution is a sign of desperation.

(Talk.Origins quotes in blue)

1. Other factors besides visual selection affect frequencies. These other factors, especially migration, explain the frequency of light-colored moths in heavily polluted industrial areas.

This is exactly the point Wells was making.

2. Manchester is a particularly poor choice of location to cite as evidence for the claim. The only published data on the numbers of peppered moths collected in Manchester between the early 20th century and the mid 1960s are those of Michaelis, first published by Kettlewell. Not one of the 760 peppered moths collected by Michaelis between 1952 and 1964 was of the typical light variety.

All this shows is that Wells was using all of the data he had and not just those that supported a particular view.

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